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  1. SovereignMary
    March 31, 2014

    Open Borders would be wonderful if we lived in a Utopia. But, we find ourselves currently residing in a nation where illegal aliens can get on a dole of so-called “Entitlements” at the expense of plundering the honest taxpayers fruits of their labor.
    We are also experiencing illegal aliens entering this sovereign nation who with full out venomous hatred wishing and attempting to undermine and destroy any notions of liberties, freedoms and unalienable rights of the individual.

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    • Philip Glover
      April 1, 2014

      What made the nation sovereign, the fact that our ancestors murdered and pillaged the peoples who lived here before us?

      The immigrants aren’t looking to destroy your way of life, they’re looking to enjoy it with you. If there’s just “not enough to go around”, then there is something terribly wrong with our way of life.

      We need to end state intervention in as many areas of our life as possible to achieve real freedom, allowing our government to draw up lines about who’s allowed to go where just exacerbates the issue. We’re all peers on this planet, regardless of our citizenship. We need to demand that those in our nation act accordingly.

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    • Dio Söze
      April 2, 2014

      If an individual has unalienable rights, the individual may be sovereign. However, a state is not an individual and has no such rights. It cannot be sovereign.

      Conversely, the sovereign rights of the individual are unalienable. If they derive from natural law they extend to the individual regardless of origin.

      Now, if a state violates your liberty – by taking your taxes under the threat of violence – this is wrong. Yet it does not give cause to violate the liberty of the foreign individual: free movement across land. This is to turn their unalienable rights alienable. We can’t argue for liberty for ourselves, on the basis of unalienable rights, then limit liberty due to the inconveniences it would pose for an arbitrary state.

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  2. John Lee
    March 31, 2014

    World Bank economist Branko Milanovic estimates that 2/3rds of global economic inequality is determined entirely by your country of birth: http://heymancenter.org/files/events/milanovic.pdf

    In other words, under the global political system we have in place today, the country you were born in matters more to your economic status than literally everything else about you.

    And more powerfully, there is no reason to accept the global status quo as immutable. Milanovic estimates that in the era of open borders, country of birth determined only 1/3rd of economic inequality in the world.

    Milanovic says that today, “if I know nothing about any given individual in the world, I can, with a reasonably good confidence, predict her income just from the knowledge of her citizenship.” But there is absolutely no reason things have to be this way. As Eli Dourado says, we can and must smash the new aristocracy: http://elidourado.com/blog/smash-the-new-aristocracy/

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  3. Philip Glover
    April 1, 2014

    Open the borders, it’s clearly a human rights issue. States immigration restrictions are blatantly self-serving. You can shout about national security and entitlements until the cows come home, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t still unjust discrimination.

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  4. Doug
    April 2, 2014

    I support open borders, as long as immigrants are restricted to neighborhoods where politicians live who support welfare and racial discrimination (affirmative action).

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